If you know that the Catholic church is not Gods church and their traditions are built on doctrines of men, why then do you celebrate Christmas, Easter, worship on Sunday and every other practice and tradition that "the Roman Catholic church" has made holy? Did the protestants leave the church because they knew the truth or because they didn’t want to pay the papacy? Examine every tradition that Christians hold as holy and you will see that they came from the Catholic church and not the bible. Is the pot calling the kettle black?
Silent-H – You can’t separate the practices from the people. All of these "Pagan" practices are from the Romans who are Pagans.
wrcjmm – I don’t think I have to get my facts right because you are the one who celebrates a holiday that honors sacred temple prostitutes and orgiastic rituals. Having eggs to represent fertillty and rabbits symbolizing sexual vigor and doing it in the name of the Lord. You better humble yourself before the Lord and repent..
Christmas is the winter solstice that is celebrated by pagan sunworshippers.
Baines – Good answer! I see your eyes are open.
Can’t you see that these traditions are not of God. How are you going to serve an organization that is totally contrary to God? How can you accept the practices of a people contrary to God as Holy traditions. Satan can’t give you anything that is good. If you discover the people are wrong then common sense says that you don’t follow their traditions.
Galatians 4:16
16Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?
All Protestants –
Galatians 4:9
9But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?
Lady Bern04-07-98 – Halloween amongst many others are not on my list but that doesn’t mean they are ok. My list is just an example. The message i’m trying to convey is that "ALL" tradtions that originate with what we know as Catholicism is wrong. You are also wrong about halloween being the worst. It doesn’t involve blaspheming God like Easter. What makes Easter worse is it is a ritual dedicated to a false God and they use the Lords name to promote it.
Christmas, 25th December, was the Roman celebration of the god Sol Invictus, started by Emperor Aurelian. Most early Christian celebrations and traditions were got from Pagan and other beliefs
Why do protestants keep the traditions of the people they protest against?
Building a Yurt Kazakh style
kazakh family constructs a yurt for
a wedding party in northwestern china
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I need to know details about a Korean burial tradition from the past.?
After a father died his son would build a house over his grave and live there for 3 years. Can anyone tell me more about the particulars o this tradition? Someone said it started in 1357 and was based on something from Chinese religion. Can you tell me more? Steer me in a direction to learn more about this procedure? Thanx…
Graveyards were usually established at the same time as the building of the relevant place of worship (which can date back to the 8th to 14th centuries) and were often used by those families who could not afford to be buried inside or beneath the place of worship itself. In most cultures those who were vastly rich, had important professions, were part of the nobility or were of any other high social status were usually buried in individual crypts inside or beneath the relevant place of worship with an indication of the name of the deceased, date of death and other biographical data. In Europe this was often accompanied with a depiction of their family coat of arms.
Maine Boat Builders Hope for Smoother Seas After the Recession
The state of Maine has a long boat-building tradition. Ralph Stanley has spent most of his eighty years designing and buildings boats in the town of Southwest Harbor, Maine.
RALPH STANLEY: “Takes a lot of skill to work with wood, to build a boat out of wood. Those skills are something that have been acquired over thousands of years and passed on to people. And, if somebody doesnt keep on building out of wood, it will be lost.”
Stanley is retired from boat-building. But he worries that many builders are using materials like fiberglass to make copies of the boats hull, or body of a boat.
RALPH STANLEY: “Fiberglass came along and I thought about going into fiberglass. But if I did, I would have to have a mold and I could never change that mold. And every boat Ive built I see something I would like to change on the next one.”
Stanleys son Richard also builds boats. Richard Stanley says wood is able to take up the full energy of shocks. He says fiberglass is thicker and beats back the shocks.
Kerri Russell is head of Maine-Built Boats. The group provides support for the states boat building industry. She says many boat-builders have good reasons for using use fiberglass.
Russell worked for a company that makes boats with fiberglass. She says it strengthened the hulls, weighed less than wood, and required fewer repairs.
CUYLER MORRIS: “This boat sails away for three hundred eighty-five thousand dollars.”
Cuyler Morris is head of Morris Yachts, an award-winning builder of sail boats. Those boats sell for up to one million four hundred thousand dollars.
Morris says his company is always looking for the best materials and using them with the best design. He says usefulness is an important quality. Morris father started the company thirty-eight years ago. Morris Yachts now uses electrically-operated parts instead of hand-powered ones.
CUYLER MORRIS: “There are all sorts of things that have made boating easier, like this little jiffy sail cover here.”
A machine-powered sail cover protects the sail until it is needed.
Morris says the device is better than hand-powered winches. A winch is the name of a device used to open and close the sail. Kerri Russell says many boats are equipped with new technology because boat-builders want to increase sales among busy families.
Russell says technology is helpful for people who might not have time for traditional boats.
Cuyler Morris says something is special about boats built in Maine. He says Maine is all about quality — whether you want a small wooden rowboat or a super sailing yacht. People just do it the right way.
The recession has deeply affected Maines boat industry. But Morris is hopeful about the future.
CUYLER MORRIS: “Seventy-two percent of the world is covered with water. People are always going to boat. There is always going to be a demand for boats built in Maine because of quality, so Im really optimistic.”
The future is less clear for builders of wooden boats. Ralph Stanley now spends a lot of his time playing a fiddle made from the wood he long used to build boats. I’m Shirley Griffith.
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What is a good tradition to start at a new high school theater ?
The new theater has been built for our high school and we will be there for it’s first play ever. Does anyone know a good tradition that can be begun and passed on here?
Have your kids come up with something.
A teen tour question?
i go to overnight camp, and i love it there and its built on traditions stronger then anything, and im in the oldest age group. Ironically a counselo from a few years ago that i got very frendly with told me i had to go to new zealand, id love it. I found a teen tour that takes me there and does some of my favorite things, and im finally old enough to go on it, but im running out of time at my overnight camp which i love, only 3 more summers. I would still get 4 weeks at overnight camp. What should i do?
If you can afford to go to New Zealand it would be a grat experience. However, if you plan to be a counsellor at your camp they may require you be there every year to qualify. Ask them.
Building On A Noble Tradition Part I
The American Inns of Court foundation exists not only to provide services and support to the local organization, but to provide the cohesion necessary to achieve the national purpose of promoting ethics and professionalism in the practice of law.
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Why is it Scripture AND Traidition for Catholics and Orthodox, but not you Protestants?
The Protestant movement arose due to the seen "need" for Christianity to return to the Primitive Church, and part of this was Scripture Only movement instead of Scripture AND Tradition.
My question is, how can anyone justify NOT including Tradition when it WAS the basis of the Primitive Church? One has to remember that no New Testament Scripture was written down until AT LEAST 30 years after Jesus died (and these were only Paul’s Epistles… the Gospels were written starting some 60-100 years after Jesus died). New Testament Scripture wasn’t even recorded to start with!
Tradition is JUST as important, for it was this Tradition which built the Primitive Church right after Jesus Christ died. Tradition is the direct revelation of God and Jesus Christ to the Apostles! Also remember, Tradition are the direct hidden teachings of the Mysteries of Christ and God and the Kingdom of Heaven, direct revelation coming from Jesus Christ to Apostle, and Apostles to disciples. The Mysteries as said by Jesus Christ, those words that the 12 yearned to but were not ready: John 16: 11-13 “I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.” As Paul said, most Christians are carnal, and cannot bear the truth of the Mysteries, as they are babes in Christ. There are levels of Christianity, this is a truth that no one seems to want to recognize! Some Christians are more highly developed spiritually than others. Thus, we have the Apostolic Tradition that Catholic and Orthodox modern churches are based on, which is the direct Gnosis of God and Jesus Christ. Once you have direct Gnosis, once you have found the Mystery of the Kingdom of God, you are instantly and forever changed. The Catholic and Orthodox churches are the OLDEST, and hence, the REMAINDER of the Primitive Catholic (Universal) Church, the only true Church. Hence, Tradition IS truth as much as Scripture is!
Why do Protestants not recognize or accept this as Truth, which it is?
The end result of the Mystery is… God within YOU, for ye are the Temple of God. God is in us, as He was in Jesus Christ. The only difference is, we only share the nature of God, while Jesus Christ had His essence. Truly, we are created in the image of God, and we become partakers in the Divine nature through Jesus Christ, as God descended to Man through Jesus Christ, so Man could ascend to God and become partakers of the Divine nature and thus gods (small g), reconcile us to the Image of God which everyone is born with. He sheds Light on that realization, so that when you realize, you cannot do anything but the will of God, since His will becomes your will, when you realize God is within you, and always has been. It is ignorance of this fact that leads to sin, and turning away from God.
CJ, how very judgemental and ignorant for you to judge anyone and whether they are saved or not, much less 1 billion people around the world! Who are YOU to judge? The Bible stands alone, yet the New Testament was not written for 30-100 years AFTER He died! How would you say the Bible was written THAT long after Jesus Christ died, where did the teachings go in between the time He died and they were written down, out the window? That’s where Tradition comes in, since Tradition existed BEFORE the New Testament was written, or considered Scripture, for that matter!
Judge not, lest ye be judged!
Blondiebaptist, yet another judgemental Christian who appears as yet, carnal, most Protestants are, since they cannot accept the spiritual food that Tradition offers. To say that people are going to burn in Hell, is in effect blaspheming the Holy Spirit, the only true eternal sin, since you have no idea who is blessed with the Holy Spirit, and thus saved, and who is not.
Truly spiritual Christians, Catholics included, who walk in the way of the Spirit of God, are saved in Jesus Christ. Those that are babes in Christ (carnal believers), are also saved, but not as yet perfect, which spiritual Christians strive for, and its a constant struggle. We have to die to Christ daily. Do you die to Christ daily? Is it not you that live, but Christ in you? Do you have the Mind of Christ (Christ consciousness)? If not, then again, judge not!
As a FORMER Catholic, now a neo-Gnostic Christian, I appreciate these truths and the direct Gnosis of God. Blessings to you!
Pastor Billy, I have to question you about the separating water baptism and Spirit baptism as unique to Protestantism. Personally, I have to agree with that. I was baptised into the Roman Catholic Church as a baby, but was spiritually dead until I was saved on March 13 this year through Jesus Christ. 18 hours later I was graced with direct Gnosis of God, He reached down to me, enwrapped me in His presence, and filled me with His love and grace. This Baptism of the Holy Spirit WAS in fact a separate, spontaneous, involuntary, supernatural occurance by grace from God, which was entirely separate from my water baptism as a baby.
Pastor Billy says: actually Protestantism or non-Catholic Christians tend to be very contradictory. They talk the talk but fail to walk the walk if you know what I mean, to say they don’t accept tradition is actually a fallacy. They may reject certain ancient Christian tradition or Holy Tradition held as Godly revelation by Catholics but they often will have and follow their own sometimes fairly modern traditions. For example alter-call, sinners prayer, prosperity gospel, the prayer cloth, or peter popoff water are all newly created traditions. How about the tradition of KJV only readers (they reject biblical text with a lineage 1600 years older than the KJV) or what about the tradition of separating spiritual baptism from water baptism also a recent tradition practiced by Protestants.
I’m short on time will return with more.
Those who teach bible alone are never bible alone.
addendum: Christine we will have to agree to disagree, you were already born again as a baptised enfant. What you’ve experienced recently is a conversion which obviously has been very emotional. The recent revisionism of born again or what I like to call the Billy Graham way is also a novel tradition of Protestant (fundamentalist) Evangelicalism.
When Jesus explains to Nicodemus how one is born again he does not separate baptism into two separate experiences and he does not restrict it to only adults. As you are interested in gnostic knowledge (secret knowledge) try doing a search on the Didache which is neither gnostic or secret but not well know by most Protestants or Catholics and yet accepted by both Protestant and Catholic scholars as authentic. The Didache, also known as the teachings of the Apostles is an ancient Syrian text written I believe in the first century hence it is as old as much of the New Testament.
I suggest you spend time reading the Early Church Fathers.
Glad to see that even as a fallen away Catholic you have used your faith and reason in determining the existence of tradition in the Christian faith. To be a remnant Church we must belong to what is the remainder.
The following is for all the bible thumpers:
Paul tells the Corinthians, "I commend you because you remember me in everything and maintain the traditions even as I have delivered them to you" (1 Cor. 11:2), and he commands the Thessalonians, "So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by letter" (2 Thess. 2:15). He even goes so far as to order, "Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you keep away from any brother who is living in idleness and not in accord with the tradition that you received from us" (2 Thess. 3:6).
To make sure that the apostolic tradition would be passed down after the deaths of the apostles, Paul told Timothy, "[W]hat you have heard from me before many witnesses entrust to faithful men who will be able to teach others also" (2 Tim. 2:2). In this passage he refers to the first four generations of apostolic succession—his own generation, Timothy’s generation, the generation Timothy will teach, and the generation they in turn will teach.
http://www.catholic.com/library/Apostolic_Tradition.asp
http://www.catholic.com/library/Scripture_and_Tradition.asp
Building New Social Relations Part 1
Building New Social Relations: Prefigurative Politics in Movements
Chair: Andrew Cornell, American Studies, New York Univeristy
Chris Dixon, History of Consciousness, University of California, Santa Cruz
Cindy Milstein, Institute for Anarchist Studies
Deborah Gould, Sociology, University of Pittsburth
Harjit Sing Gill, Institute for Anarchist Studies
The term prefigurative politics is widespread within various activist movements, and it describes modes of organization and tactics undertaken that accurately reflect the future society being sought by the group.
The I.W.W. and other anarchist activists refer to this as “building a new world in the shell of the old.” If a group is aiming to eliminate class distinctions, prefigurative politics demands that there be no class distinctions within that group. The same principle applies to hierarchy: if a group is fighting to abolish some or all forms of hierarchy in larger society, prefigurative politics demands they do the same within their group structure.
Cindy Milstein is an anarchist activist and educator who talks at various anarchist and socialist gatherings. One such talk was the very informal but in-depth class, “Anarchism 101″ at the National Conference on Organized Resistance, at the American University in Washington DC, in 2003 and 2004. (See the NCOR Web site for other talks by Milstein each year, including in the new Radical Theory Track.) Milstein’s presentation covers the philosophical roots of anarchism and its evolution to the present, including pre-anarchist ideas of liberty, the anarchist-communist split, and a number of different anarchist philosophies, among other things.
She has also been involved with the Institute for Social Ecology, and is currently a board member with the Institute for Anarchist Studies and a co-organizer of the Renewing the Anarchist Tradition conference. Milstein speaks regularly in public, at anarchist conferences and bookfairs as well as radical spaces, including the Finding Our Roots conference, the Unschooling Oppression conference, the Montreal Anarchist Bookfair, the Bay Area Bookfair, the New York Anarchist Book Fair, and Left Forum, among others. Her essays are published in several recent anthologies–Realizing the Impossible: Art against Authority (AK Press, 2007), Globalize Liberation (City Lights, 2004), Confronting Capitalism (Soft Skull, 2004), and Only a Beginning (Arsenal Pulp Press, 2004) as well as on the Free Society Collective Web site. She is also a collective member of the all-volunteer Black Sheep Books in Montpelier, Vermont.
To learn more about the panelist and ideas expressed in these videos check out the links at the following Sqworl page:
http://sqworl.com/?i=895030
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Are there any Ranches in Chicago for Obama to vacation at?
Regan always went to his California ranch and cut wood, rode horses and built fences. George Bush goes back to his ranch to cut wood, ride horses and shoot ducks. If Obama is to carry this tradition on will they build a ranch on the south side of Chicago?
He will go hang with Wright and Ayers and shoot the sh*t about how they hate America.