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	<title>Comments on: Atheists: Do you ever feel sad about the lack of traditions, holidays and community bonds in atheism?</title>
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		<title>By: bleach93</title>
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		<dc:creator>bleach93</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 12:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not really, we just use your holidays as an excuse for presents.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not really, we just use your holidays as an excuse for presents.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: Zofia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zofia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 12:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No not at all. There are many opportunities for community celebration that o not have a religious focus. Atheists can celebrate secular holidays such as the fourth of july, mother&#039;s day, and father&#039;s day, birthdays, and many others. Just because Chiristmas, Easter, ect. may be more popularized and widely celebrated, doesn;t mean that you and your family/friends cannot have your own traditions centered around nonreligous holidays.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No not at all. There are many opportunities for community celebration that o not have a religious focus. Atheists can celebrate secular holidays such as the fourth of july, mother&#8217;s day, and father&#8217;s day, birthdays, and many others. Just because Chiristmas, Easter, ect. may be more popularized and widely celebrated, doesn;t mean that you and your family/friends cannot have your own traditions centered around nonreligous holidays.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: big j</title>
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		<dc:creator>big j</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 11:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes. I felt the same way the first time I thought I was in love. But then I regained my senses and discovered all the insincerity involved in that relationship. I&#039;m more careful now about deluding myself, especially if it involves exchanging material things to certify, and build upon our relationship.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes. I felt the same way the first time I thought I was in love. But then I regained my senses and discovered all the insincerity involved in that relationship. I&#8217;m more careful now about deluding myself, especially if it involves exchanging material things to certify, and build upon our relationship.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: James E</title>
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		<dc:creator>James E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 11:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Atheists don&#039;t need empty mythological ritual traditions to enjoy their lives, family or friendships. 

You mean put aside all the scary sermons and pedophiles, the Spanish inquisition, the persecution of Galileo&#039;s heliocentric truth until 1992, the Intelligent design retards trying to subvert science with unsubstantiated BS and every loon that believes in a magical man in the sky. No I don’t have any admiration for superstitious morons regardless of how much bonding goes on that would be like admiring a group of kids because they scared themselves playing with a Ouija board.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Atheists don&#8217;t need empty mythological ritual traditions to enjoy their lives, family or friendships. </p>
<p>You mean put aside all the scary sermons and pedophiles, the Spanish inquisition, the persecution of Galileo&#8217;s heliocentric truth until 1992, the Intelligent design retards trying to subvert science with unsubstantiated BS and every loon that believes in a magical man in the sky. No I don’t have any admiration for superstitious morons regardless of how much bonding goes on that would be like admiring a group of kids because they scared themselves playing with a Ouija board.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: misterlucky</title>
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		<dc:creator>misterlucky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 10:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, the way you put it,,,it seems like atheists are like lost little outcasts, pressing their little booger noses to the window of the world, and watching everything they want...OUT  ....OF....REACH..

    everyday is a party, huh? and pray tell, what happens when the party&#039;s over?&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, the way you put it,,,it seems like atheists are like lost little outcasts, pressing their little booger noses to the window of the world, and watching everything they want&#8230;OUT  &#8230;.OF&#8230;.REACH..</p>
<p>    everyday is a party, huh? and pray tell, what happens when the party&#8217;s over?<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: Sage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 10:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you really that ignorant about the holidays and feast days?!!


Easter is set by the first full moon after the vernal equinox. This is the one day in the year when day and night are roughly equal!

It varies by more than a month over the years and so it simply cannot represent the date of anyone&#039;s death!!!

It is in fact a combination of several pagan festivals most notably the spring festival.

The name Easter comes from “Eastre” an Anglo-Saxon pagan goddess. Also the Norse goddess,Ostara who took her name from the Teutonic lunar goddess Eostre

Even the Chinese have the festival of Ching Ming where flowers and sweets are put on their ancestors graves!!

The egg and the rabbit are symbols of springtime and rebirth along with the custom of giving flowers etc!!

Halloween is shortened from All Hallows&#039; Evening which has its origins in the ancient Celtic festival of Samhain a celebration of the end of the harvest. But it was a day on which many northern European Pagan traditions or religious festivals were celebrated!!

Two Popes Gregory III and Gregory IV moved the old All Saints&#039; Day from May 13 itself the date of a pagan holiday to try to hijack the pagan festival.

Christmas is nothing to do with either Christianity or Islam but it does have it&#039;s origins in the midwinter festival and many other basically pagan rites but since much of it is a celebration of nature rather than religion everyone should be able to enjoy it and be happy together despite religion!!

The ancient European pagans celebrated the midwinter festival and a number of other festivals long before Christianity ever existed!

Babylonians celebrated the feast of the Son of Isis with gluttonous eating and drinking, and gift giving and the goddess of fertility, love, and war. 

The Romans held a festival on 25 December called “Dies Natalis Solis Invicti, celebrating their own god Sol Invictas - PAGAN.

The Persian god Mithras, the Syrian sun god Elah Gabal, the German Sol, the Greek Helios and the Mesopotamian Shamash.  But also Saturnalia, honouring Saturn, the God of Agriculture. The law courts and schools were closed. No public business could be transacted an this is where the holidays originated - ALL PAGAN!!!

Wax tapers were given by the more humble to their superiors. The origin of the Christmas candle - PAGAN!!

In Rome groups of costumed went from house to house entertaining their people. And this was where the carolling Christmas tradition originated PAGAN!!

Statues of the Mother and lover or Mother and son were paraded through the streets not only in Italy but also in Africa, Spain, Portugal, France, Germany and Bulgaria. Thus, the symbolism of the Heavenly Virgin and the infant child paraded on a yearly basis are not of Christian origin. They stem from the Mother-goddess religion, which is very ancient ENTIRELY PAGAN!!.

Scandinavian countries celebrated Yule honouring Thor - PAGAN.  

In Germania (not Germany) they celebrated midwinter night followed by 12 wild nights of eating and drinking.  The 12 days of Christmas PAGAN!!

The church under Pope Julius I declared that Christ’s birth would be celebrated on December 25 in 350 AD in order to try to hijack the PAGAN festivals but it was largely ignored.  Christians did not really celebrate Christmas until 378 but it was then dropped in 381 and not resurrected until 400.

The Christmas tree stems from pagan tradition and ritual surrounding the Winter Solstice, which included the use of holly boughs ivy  and other foliage as an adaptation of pagan tree worship.  Holly and ivy represented male and female.  Mistletoe was considered a sacred plant, and the custom of kissing under the mistletoe began as a fertility ritual - all PAGAN!!

Santa Claus came from the Dutch “Sinterklaas” and was a tall figure riding a white horse through the air and usually accompanied by Black Peter, an elf who punished disobedient children.  Also the origin of the reindeer, sleigh and the elves ALL PAGAN!!

The modern red coated Santa was brought about by coca cola!!

America actually banned Christmas several times and is the originator of the expression  “Happy Holidays” which came about because of the pagan origins of Christmas to include all religions and traditions!!

The Venerable Bede, an early Christian writer pointed out that the Christian church absorbed Pagan practices when it found the population unwilling to give up the festivals. Thus a lot of what Christians now see as Christians practices are in fact pagan!!!

All holidays where christians strive to prove just how pagan they have become!!!&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you really that ignorant about the holidays and feast days?!!</p>
<p>Easter is set by the first full moon after the vernal equinox. This is the one day in the year when day and night are roughly equal!</p>
<p>It varies by more than a month over the years and so it simply cannot represent the date of anyone&#8217;s death!!!</p>
<p>It is in fact a combination of several pagan festivals most notably the spring festival.</p>
<p>The name Easter comes from “Eastre” an Anglo-Saxon pagan goddess. Also the Norse goddess,Ostara who took her name from the Teutonic lunar goddess Eostre</p>
<p>Even the Chinese have the festival of Ching Ming where flowers and sweets are put on their ancestors graves!!</p>
<p>The egg and the rabbit are symbols of springtime and rebirth along with the custom of giving flowers etc!!</p>
<p>Halloween is shortened from All Hallows&#8217; Evening which has its origins in the ancient Celtic festival of Samhain a celebration of the end of the harvest. But it was a day on which many northern European Pagan traditions or religious festivals were celebrated!!</p>
<p>Two Popes Gregory III and Gregory IV moved the old All Saints&#8217; Day from May 13 itself the date of a pagan holiday to try to hijack the pagan festival.</p>
<p>Christmas is nothing to do with either Christianity or Islam but it does have it&#8217;s origins in the midwinter festival and many other basically pagan rites but since much of it is a celebration of nature rather than religion everyone should be able to enjoy it and be happy together despite religion!!</p>
<p>The ancient European pagans celebrated the midwinter festival and a number of other festivals long before Christianity ever existed!</p>
<p>Babylonians celebrated the feast of the Son of Isis with gluttonous eating and drinking, and gift giving and the goddess of fertility, love, and war. </p>
<p>The Romans held a festival on 25 December called “Dies Natalis Solis Invicti, celebrating their own god Sol Invictas &#8211; PAGAN.</p>
<p>The Persian god Mithras, the Syrian sun god Elah Gabal, the German Sol, the Greek Helios and the Mesopotamian Shamash.  But also Saturnalia, honouring Saturn, the God of Agriculture. The law courts and schools were closed. No public business could be transacted an this is where the holidays originated &#8211; ALL PAGAN!!!</p>
<p>Wax tapers were given by the more humble to their superiors. The origin of the Christmas candle &#8211; PAGAN!!</p>
<p>In Rome groups of costumed went from house to house entertaining their people. And this was where the carolling Christmas tradition originated PAGAN!!</p>
<p>Statues of the Mother and lover or Mother and son were paraded through the streets not only in Italy but also in Africa, Spain, Portugal, France, Germany and Bulgaria. Thus, the symbolism of the Heavenly Virgin and the infant child paraded on a yearly basis are not of Christian origin. They stem from the Mother-goddess religion, which is very ancient ENTIRELY PAGAN!!.</p>
<p>Scandinavian countries celebrated Yule honouring Thor &#8211; PAGAN.  </p>
<p>In Germania (not Germany) they celebrated midwinter night followed by 12 wild nights of eating and drinking.  The 12 days of Christmas PAGAN!!</p>
<p>The church under Pope Julius I declared that Christ’s birth would be celebrated on December 25 in 350 AD in order to try to hijack the PAGAN festivals but it was largely ignored.  Christians did not really celebrate Christmas until 378 but it was then dropped in 381 and not resurrected until 400.</p>
<p>The Christmas tree stems from pagan tradition and ritual surrounding the Winter Solstice, which included the use of holly boughs ivy  and other foliage as an adaptation of pagan tree worship.  Holly and ivy represented male and female.  Mistletoe was considered a sacred plant, and the custom of kissing under the mistletoe began as a fertility ritual &#8211; all PAGAN!!</p>
<p>Santa Claus came from the Dutch “Sinterklaas” and was a tall figure riding a white horse through the air and usually accompanied by Black Peter, an elf who punished disobedient children.  Also the origin of the reindeer, sleigh and the elves ALL PAGAN!!</p>
<p>The modern red coated Santa was brought about by coca cola!!</p>
<p>America actually banned Christmas several times and is the originator of the expression  “Happy Holidays” which came about because of the pagan origins of Christmas to include all religions and traditions!!</p>
<p>The Venerable Bede, an early Christian writer pointed out that the Christian church absorbed Pagan practices when it found the population unwilling to give up the festivals. Thus a lot of what Christians now see as Christians practices are in fact pagan!!!</p>
<p>All holidays where christians strive to prove just how pagan they have become!!!<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: joshy</title>
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		<dc:creator>joshy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 10:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: beatriceorme</title>
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		<dc:creator>beatriceorme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 09:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why should I need some religious dogma to give me a reason to celebrate with my family? We do just that, whenever the mood strikes, because we are a family, together. And when the weather&#039;s nice, the sun shining or the evening cool, neighbors, friends, colleagues and relatives gather for food and fun, joining not because of an ecumenical calendar says so, but for friendship and community.

I&#039;ve passed the tradition of waffles on Sunday mornings, summer vacations at the shore, garbage on Wednesdays, Friday movie nights, thrift shopping and road trips and volunteering and daily hugs and recycling and puddle jumping and remembering to bring positive to every day. I&#039;ve given my children tenets to life by: Respect all, help those in need, love strong and knowledge is power.

And all without the tainting touch of religion.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why should I need some religious dogma to give me a reason to celebrate with my family? We do just that, whenever the mood strikes, because we are a family, together. And when the weather&#8217;s nice, the sun shining or the evening cool, neighbors, friends, colleagues and relatives gather for food and fun, joining not because of an ecumenical calendar says so, but for friendship and community.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve passed the tradition of waffles on Sunday mornings, summer vacations at the shore, garbage on Wednesdays, Friday movie nights, thrift shopping and road trips and volunteering and daily hugs and recycling and puddle jumping and remembering to bring positive to every day. I&#8217;ve given my children tenets to life by: Respect all, help those in need, love strong and knowledge is power.</p>
<p>And all without the tainting touch of religion.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: denofpsychosis</title>
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		<dc:creator>denofpsychosis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 08:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I view christian traditions with great fondness. I view them just as that..Traditions that were once hardwired in religion. 

It doesn&#039;t mean as an atheist, I cannot enjoy being with family at Christmas or Easter

http://softmelon.wordpress.com/2009/04/10/good-friday-an-atheists-perspective/&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I view christian traditions with great fondness. I view them just as that..Traditions that were once hardwired in religion. </p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t mean as an atheist, I cannot enjoy being with family at Christmas or Easter</p>
<p><a href="http://softmelon.wordpress.com/2009/04/10/good-friday-an-atheists-perspective/" rel="nofollow">http://softmelon.wordpress.com/2009/04/10/good-friday-an-atheists-perspective/</a><br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: T</title>
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		<dc:creator>T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 08:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have community bonding! I spend my day with people and function in relationships as you do. Just because I do  not believe does not make me an outcast. I love just like you and want to be loved just like you, I am just a little more realistick in my expectations of other people&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have community bonding! I spend my day with people and function in relationships as you do. Just because I do  not believe does not make me an outcast. I love just like you and want to be loved just like you, I am just a little more realistick in my expectations of other people<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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